Comments on: Iceweasel 3.5-1 in experimental http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391 glandium.org Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:27:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mike http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-14128 Mike Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:20:53 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-14128 Thanks but can we just have firefox back? Mozilla's non-free icons and images are the least of Debian's GNU problems. If it isn't, why stop with firefox? Let go ahead and follow the retarded decision to create iceweasel and bury debian by banning openssl too. Iceweasel was nothing more than an interweb dictator demonstrating his e-penis size by forcing everybody to conform to his tangent. How do I know? Because even though I can maintain firefox packages intended for non-free I cannot get them included into the repository. Why? Because it proves the dictator wrong and questions his power. Thanks but can we just have firefox back? Mozilla’s non-free icons and images are the least of Debian’s GNU problems. If it isn’t, why stop with firefox? Let go ahead and follow the retarded decision to create iceweasel and bury debian by banning openssl too.

Iceweasel was nothing more than an interweb dictator demonstrating his e-penis size by forcing everybody to conform to his tangent. How do I know? Because even though I can maintain firefox packages intended for non-free I cannot get them included into the repository. Why? Because it proves the dictator wrong and questions his power.

]]> By: Rejin: Advogado Da Sega http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-14124 Rejin: Advogado Da Sega Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:43:31 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-14124 Thank You Thank You

]]> By: Anonymous http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-14112 Anonymous Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:57:26 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-14112 Works fine here on testing/i386. Thank you for your hard work. Works fine here on testing/i386. Thank you for your hard work.

]]> By: feNNec http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-14092 feNNec Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:39:16 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-14092 Thanks a lot for iceweasel 3.5-1 in Experimental. Works well for me. One question: why 3.5.1-1 exists for amd64 and not for i386? Thanks a lot for iceweasel 3.5-1 in Experimental. Works well for me.
One question: why 3.5.1-1 exists for amd64 and not for i386?

]]> By: Anonymous http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-13977 Anonymous Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:23:30 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-13977 Regarding "iceweasel" causing packaging difficulties: no. As I understand it, the difficulty comes primarily from Mozilla packaging software for Linux like it does for systems like Windows which have no sane package management. Thus, Mozilla bundles versions of libraries rather than using the system libraries, and otherwise makes life difficult for packagers like Mike Hommey. glandium: does that accurately summarize the problem? Regarding “iceweasel” causing packaging difficulties: no. As I understand it, the difficulty comes primarily from Mozilla packaging software for Linux like it does for systems like Windows which have no sane package management. Thus, Mozilla bundles versions of libraries rather than using the system libraries, and otherwise makes life difficult for packagers like Mike Hommey.

glandium: does that accurately summarize the problem?

]]> By: bhy http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-13954 bhy Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:19:06 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-13954 Iñaki: OMG! Do you actually know anything about the story behind FF getting renamed to iceweasel in Debian? It was 100% mozilla's fault and 0% debian's fault. Mozilla instits that modified versions of its product can't carry its trademark anymore. And they apply this pretty selectively (other distros also have modified versions but mozilla doesn't seem to mind). You shouldn't use absolute paths (crappy extensions which use absolute paths etc.), then there's no problem with directory names having 'iceweasel' instead of 'firefox'. Also, the fact that this version is packaged a little late has probably nothing to do with the different name. It's just that Debian's not archlinux, it has a stable version and doesn't focus on rolling updates that much. The crap about government administration and bureaucrats is just sad. I'm very liberal and that's why I use Debian. Thanks to the free software guidelines and the social contract, Debian is the only mainstream operating system which is fully free software. Iñaki: OMG! Do you actually know anything about the story behind FF getting renamed to iceweasel in Debian? It was 100% mozilla’s fault and 0% debian’s fault. Mozilla instits that modified versions of its product can’t carry its trademark anymore. And they apply this pretty selectively (other distros also have modified versions but mozilla doesn’t seem to mind).

You shouldn’t use absolute paths (crappy extensions which use absolute paths etc.), then there’s no problem with directory names having ‘iceweasel’ instead of ‘firefox’. Also, the fact that this version is packaged a little late has probably nothing to do with the different name. It’s just that Debian’s not archlinux, it has a stable version and doesn’t focus on rolling updates that much.

The crap about government administration and bureaucrats is just sad. I’m very liberal and that’s why I use Debian. Thanks to the free software guidelines and the social contract, Debian is the only mainstream operating system which is fully free software.

]]> By: arno http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-13948 arno Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:13:15 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-13948 glandium: I'm trying to build because sometimes I need to understand parts of gecko, so I like to have a build available where I can put printf's I'm trying to build on amd64 architecture. Is a build log available so I can compare rules used to build js shell ? glandium: I’m trying to build because sometimes I need to understand parts of gecko, so I like to have a build available where I can put printf’s
I’m trying to build on amd64 architecture.
Is a build log available so I can compare rules used to build js shell ?

]]> By: glandium http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-13946 glandium Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:18:25 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-13946 arno: there is theorically no way this should ever happen. What architecture are you trying to build it for ? And why are you trying to build it at all ? arno: there is theorically no way this should ever happen. What architecture are you trying to build it for ? And why are you trying to build it at all ?

]]> By: arno http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-13938 arno Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:38:04 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-13938 Hi, I'm trying to compile xulrunner 1.9.1 on debian unstable and it fails. I got it with dget ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xulrunner/xulrunner_1.9.1-1.dsc then dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc and it fails in js/src c++ -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-long-long -g -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Os -fstrict-aliasing -o js js.o -Wl,--as-needed -lpthread -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-rpath-link,/bin -Wl,-rpath-link,/lib -L./../../dist/bin -L./../../dist/lib -L/usr/lib -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -lpthread -ldl -L. -L/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/dist/lib -lmozjs -lreadline -ldl -lm -lm -ldl js.o: In function `Elapsed': /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:3400: undefined reference to `js_IntervalNow' js.o: In function `CancelExecution': /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:3347: undefined reference to `JS_TriggerAllOperationCallbacks' js.o: In function `ValueToScript': /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:1303: undefined reference to `js_GeneratorClass' js.o: In function `GCParameter': /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:1098: undefined reference to `JS_GetGCParameter' js.o: In function `ToSource': /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:1000: undefined reference to `JS_ValueToSource' js.o: In function `AssertEq': /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:1020: undefined reference to `JS_StrictlyEqual' js.o: In function `main': /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:4604: undefined reference to `JS_SetGCParameterForThread' js.o: In function `NewContextData': /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:296: undefined reference to `js_IntervalNow' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[4]: *** [js] Erreur 1 make[4]: quittant le répertoire « /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src » make[3]: *** [libs_tier_js] Erreur 2 make[3]: quittant le répertoire « /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1 » make[2]: *** [tier_js] Erreur 2 make[2]: quittant le répertoire « /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1 » make[1]: *** [default] Erreur 2 make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1 » Hi,
I’m trying to compile xulrunner 1.9.1 on debian unstable and it fails.
I got it with
dget ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xulrunner/xulrunner_1.9.1-1.dsc
then
dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc

and it fails in js/src

c++ -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-long-long -g -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Os -fstrict-aliasing -o js js.o -Wl,–as-needed -lpthread -Wl,–as-needed -Wl,-rpath-link,/bin -Wl,-rpath-link,/lib -L./../../dist/bin -L./../../dist/lib -L/usr/lib -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -lpthread -ldl -L. -L/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/dist/lib -lmozjs -lreadline -ldl -lm -lm -ldl
js.o: In function `Elapsed’:
/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:3400: undefined reference to `js_IntervalNow’
js.o: In function `CancelExecution’:
/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:3347: undefined reference to `JS_TriggerAllOperationCallbacks’
js.o: In function `ValueToScript’:
/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:1303: undefined reference to `js_GeneratorClass’
js.o: In function `GCParameter’:
/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:1098: undefined reference to `JS_GetGCParameter’
js.o: In function `ToSource’:
/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:1000: undefined reference to `JS_ValueToSource’
js.o: In function `AssertEq’:
/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:1020: undefined reference to `JS_StrictlyEqual’
js.o: In function `main’:
/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:4604: undefined reference to `JS_SetGCParameterForThread’
js.o: In function `NewContextData’:
/home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src/js.cpp:296: undefined reference to `js_IntervalNow’
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [js] Erreur 1
make[4]: quittant le répertoire « /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1/js/src »
make[3]: *** [libs_tier_js] Erreur 2
make[3]: quittant le répertoire « /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1 »
make[2]: *** [tier_js] Erreur 2
make[2]: quittant le répertoire « /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1 »
make[1]: *** [default] Erreur 2
make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /home/arno/debian/debsrc/xulrunner-1.9.1 »

]]> By: Iñaki http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-13931 Iñaki Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:54:51 +0000 http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391#comment-13931 Glandium, my criticism wasn't addressed to packagers like you, who make a good job without asking anything in return; my criticism referred to that stupid decision, in my opinión (and in the opinión of lots of people more knowledged than I) of "creating" Iceweasel, a "bureaucratic" decision which just adds more work to do for you, mantainers, and increases the risk of delays, failures due to silly things like bad paths in some random line in some config file, etc. I know that at least as many people, probably more, like those who think it was a wrong decision think that it was a good one, that putting FF in non-free repos would have been exagerated, but hence the "benefits" of Iceweasel: delays, silly bugs due to executable/paths/whatever wrong names, need to change the browser's user agent for many sites, etc. Said all this, I repeat that users highly appreciate the work packagers do and sencerely thank you; but sometimes Debian looks like some government administration taking stupid decisions that just make things worse. Regards Glandium, my criticism wasn’t addressed to packagers like you, who make a good job without asking anything in return; my criticism referred to that stupid decision, in my opinión (and in the opinión of lots of people more knowledged than I) of “creating” Iceweasel, a “bureaucratic” decision which just adds more work to do for you, mantainers, and increases the risk of delays, failures due to silly things like bad paths in some random line in some config file, etc.

I know that at least as many people, probably more, like those who think it was a wrong decision think that it was a good one, that putting FF in non-free repos would have been exagerated, but hence the “benefits” of Iceweasel: delays, silly bugs due to executable/paths/whatever wrong names, need to change the browser’s user agent for many sites, etc.

Said all this, I repeat that users highly appreciate the work packagers do and sencerely thank you; but sometimes Debian looks like some government administration taking stupid decisions that just make things worse.

Regards

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